How to Apply Testosterone Gel (Androgel or Testim)

[Lucky1]

Originally Posted by pmgamer18

When I was on it I put it on the inside there is less hair there.

Thanks you, for the reply!!

[JRA]

I use a compounded gel 100mg/ml and I apply .5ml to my scrotum first thing in the morning and .5 same place in the evening.

The absorption rate is better and you don't have to worry about it being transfered during the day.

[hebsie]

Originally Posted by JRA

I use a compounded gel 100mg/ml and I apply .5ml to my scrotum first thing in the morning and .5 same place in the evening.

The absorption rate is better and you don't have to worry about it being transfered during the day.

...the 5-alpha reductase enzymes are highly concentrated in the skin of the scrotum. Please post your current DHT labs...hebs

[JRA]

Originally Posted by hebsie

...the 5-alpha reductase enzymes are highly concentrated in the skin of the scrotum. Please post your current DHT labs...hebs

My DHEA as of 11-15-09 was 72, range 25-240 mcg/.

My DHT as of 11-15-09 was 28, range 25-75 ng/dl.

This application method may not work for everyone.

[Wise Guy]

Originally Posted by JRA

My DHEA as of 11-15-09 was 72, range 25-240 mcg/.

My DHT as of 11-15-09 was 28, range 25-75 ng/dl.

This application method may not work for everyone.

JRA,

Some of us have come to the conclusion that DHT serum values might not be all that accurate, and that a 24 hour urinary analysis often yields different results.

It did as well for me

25 (25 - 75) serum
11 (0 - 13) Urine

[JRA]

Originally Posted by Wise Guy

JRA,

Some of us have come to the conclusion that DHT serum values might not be all that accurate, and that a 24 hour urinary analysis often yields different results.

It did as well for me

25 (25 - 75) serum
11 (0 - 13) Urine

I have had no hair loss or any of the other symptoms of excessive DHT levels.
I believe as does my doctor that DHT when balanced with the other hormones can have a positive effect.

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by Wise Guy

JRA,

Some of us have come to the conclusion that DHT serum values might not be all that accurate, and that a 24 hour urinary analysis often yields different results.

It did as well for me

25 (25 - 75) serum
11 (0 - 13) Urine

If that was 24hr urine test at RheinLabs
post it in its entirety.

There is about a dozen of analytes measured there for the purpose of avaluating 5aR/5bR issues.

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[n00bs]

Originally Posted by JRA

I have had no hair loss or any of the other symptoms of excessive DHT levels.
I believe as does my doctor that DHT when balanced with the other hormones can have a positive effect.

Yes that is what i have been reading as well, plus its more potent then test so on the scrotum it goes

[00slotiv]

Originally Posted by Dr. John Crisler

When there is an absorption problem, as evidenced by lack of clinical response, failure of serum/urine androgen AND metabolite rise, lack of suppression of gonadotropins, etc., I do look to thyroid status first.

Yes, applying TD's BID is usually better.

Am at least considering this. Can someone explain to me why twice a day is better?

Less (excessive) DHT? Additonal variability? Gels or creams lose effectiveness after 10-12 hours?

I'd have to apply it between 4 and 6 in the morning and wouldn't be able to work out in the gym until 7 at night, which is 15-13 hours later. After a long hard day at work, I wonder how much T there would still be to workout before bed. I'd be more comfortable with twice.

Not the best time to lift but for the time being, during the week, the only opportunity.

Love the injections but maybe...

Bob

[chilln]

Originally Posted by 00slotiv

Am at least considering this. Can someone explain to me why twice a day is better?

Less (excessive) DHT? Additonal variability? Gels or creams lose effectiveness after 10-12 hours?

I'd have to apply it between 4 and 6 in the morning and wouldn't be able to work out in the gym until 7 at night, which is 15-13 hours later. After a long hard day at work, I wonder how much T there would still be to workout before bed. I'd be more comfortable with twice.

Not the best time to lift but for the time being, during the week, the only opportunity.

Love the injections but maybe...

Bob

Those who metabolize transdermal T (testosterone) quickly need to apply twice per day, those who metabolize transdermal T slowly only need to apply once per day.

The rate at which you metabolize transdermal T cannot be determined theoretically in advance.

You and your medical professional adviser must conduct therapeutic trials (dosage response trials) to confirm where your body lies.

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