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[jasonshadow]

Can you work out on the day of collecting urine sample?

The reason I ask is b/c working out usually raises Testosterone and Cortisol briefly. I did not know if this would effect the results.

[Dr. John Crisler]

Originally Posted by jasonshadow

Can you work out on the day of collecting urine sample?

The reason I ask is b/c working out usually raises Testosterone and Cortisol briefly. I did not know if this would effect the results.

I want to test my patients "where they live", so I want a "normal" day. However, I do want to exclude any changes wrought by training--with its variabilities.

[Dr. John Crisler]

Dr. Nordt told me the 24 hour urine GH assay--the only one available which is valid--is priced at only $95 is ordered with the rest of the panel, and $150 as a stand-alone.

[evilknight]

i understand that the total testosterone is not checked for but just the free levels. What if one has good free test levels but their total is low, how would they know? and the estradiol is the regular one and not the sensitive which we need.

[CowboyBob]

Here are the hormones listed for the Rhein Labs "Complete 24-Hour Urine Steroid Hormone Profile":

1. Estrone
2. 2-Hydroxyestrone
3. 16a-Hydroxyestrone
4. 4-Hydroxyestrone
5. Estradiol (E2)
6. Estriol (E3)
7. Testosterone (T)
8. Dihydrotestosterone (DHT)
9. Androstanediol
10. Androstenedione
11. DHEA
12. Androstenetriol (5-AT)
13. Androsterone (AN)
14. 11B-Hydroxy-Androsterone (11bOH-AN)
15. Etiocholanolone (ET)
16. 11B-Hydroxy-Etiocholanolone (11bOH-ET)
17. not Progesterone (results always say "not detectable in urine")
18. Pregnanediol (PD)
19. 5-Pregnenetriol(5-PT)
20. Cortisone (E)
21. Tetrahydrocortisone (THE)
22. Tetrahydrocorticosterone (THB)
23. 5a-Tetrahydrocorticosterone (5a-THB)
24. Tetrahydro-11-dehydrocorticosterone (THA)
25. Cortisol (F)
26. Tetrahydrocortisol (THF)
27. 5a-TetrahydrocortisoI (5a-THF)

Also Available:

1. 2-Methoxyestrone (available Free, by request, as an add-on to the comprehensive test)
2. 4-Methoxyestrone (available Free, by request, as an add-on to the comprehensive test)
3. Aldosterone
4. Free T3
5. Free T4
6. GH

What other tests should be taken at the same time to give the big picture (for example, to show if you hyper-excrete)? I am guessing some of these Blood tests might be needed:

• BioAvailable and Total Testosterone
• DHT
• SHBG
• FSH (instead of LH)
• DHEA-S
• Pregnenalone
• Progesterone
• Thyroid panel
• Estradiol, ultrasensitive
• IGFBP-3 (if doing the GH test)

Is it best to fast during the comprehensive panel and/or the GH test?.

Thanks!

[josh]

I'm presuming this is still THE test to do.

Does anybody know if you can send a sample from Australia to Rhein?
What are the rough costs for the test?

Cheers